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WHO IS TELLING THE TRUTH ABOUT THE HEALTHCARE BILL?

It’s tough to tell, sometimes, when someone is lying to you. In fact, most can’t tell the difference in truth or lie. A better way to judege between opposing tales is to consider the source. If someone has lied before, they’ll most likely lie again. The opposite is also true. If you have found someone whose word has always been solid, it is, usually, a sign of character and honesty.

When opposing stories are of a very complicated topic, such as the proposed healthcare reform bill released in August, to discern that which is factual requires a good deal of reading and thought, and most people will end up siding with whomever they feel most attached to instead.

Take for instance the claim that illegal immigrants will not be covered under the bill. The Republican representitives almost to a person will argue all day, even call the president a liar because of what they’ve read in the bill. Yet the president vehemently denies that illegals will be covered. But, anyone reading the bill objectively will see that both are, to some extent, correct in their claims.

On page 143, line 3, section 246 begins with the title, "NO FEDERAL PAYMENT FOR UNDOCUMENTED ALIENS". That would seem to clear up the matter. But if you delve a bit deeper, you see that that payment that is not allowed is something called an "affordability credit". If you chase that down you learn that it is a reimbursement payment to those who have paid a deductible, co-payment, or insurance premium. Illegals will not be receiving affordability credits. But that is not the end of this tangle.
On page 170, line 2 reads, "(2) NON-RESIDENT ALIENS – Subsection (a) shall not apply to any individual who is a non-resident alien." A trip back to subsection (a) teaches us that this pertains to a tax levied against anyone who has not procured healthcare insurance. The tax will not be levied against illegal immigrants, even though they won't have insurance.

But, on page 762, line 1 says ‘‘(A) provides services to beneficiaries under this title without discrimination on the ground of race, color, national origin, creed, source of payment, status as a beneficiary under this title, or any other ground unrelated to such beneficiary’s need for the services or the availability of the needed services in the hospital;" You need to, again, back up one page to 761 to learn that that statement above is just one requirement for a hospital to be certified under the bill. The entire, undivided sentence is, "No hospital may be defined or deemed as a disproportionate share hospital, or as an essential access hospital (for purposes of subsection (f)(6)(A)(iv), under a State plan under this title or subsection (b) of this section (including any waiver under section 1115) unless the hospital provides services to beneficiaries under this title without discrimination on the ground of race, color, national origin, creed, source of payment, status as a beneficiary under this title, or any other ground unrelated to such beneficiary’s need for the services or the availability of the needed services in the hospital;"

Any hospital not defined as an essential care hospital will not be paid for essential care services. So, to be a real hospital, you can not turn away anyone, even illegal aliens. But, illegals are not eligible to become a covered member of the plan. So, they will remain in the status they are in today. To get treatment, they must use the emergrncy room.

They are not "covered" by the plan as that is defined as being enrolled. Obama is right, they are not "covered". But, they will continue to be treated, free of charge, in the emergency room and can not be turned away. Obama’s critics are also right, the illegals will receive healthcare, free, under the terms of this bill.

Who, then, is more honest in their claim? It is the one who is using the exact phraseology of the bill to promote an idea that is not a part of the bill. The people do not want illegals treated in their tax paid hospitals anymore than is needed to save their lives. To that, the president says, "Illegal immigrants will not be covered under this bill." Great, they will be turned away for all but life threatening reasons. Right? "Uhhhh, that’s not what I uhhhh… let me make it perfectly clear, again."

And he’s lied to us before, by ommision and commission. We should know by now. The same kind of "rigg-a-ma-roll" can be shown with regards to the so-called "death panels". This topic has nothing to do with the End of Life Counciling, though, it has everything to do with the Comparitive Efficiency Studies and the requirement in the bill to lower healthcare costs.

The true nature and effect of this bill will not be known until the Secretary of Health and Human Services creates the studies, rules, and guidelines that the Secretary is tasked, by the bill, to create. The Comparitive Effectiveness Study is mandated to provide a set of guidelines for treatments that are more effective (read cost effective) than others. This set of guidelines will be the rules that the "death panels" will go by to determine who will receive what treatment, based upon their ability to contribute to society, not on how dire their need for the treatment is.

So, Obama is correct when he says there will be no death panels pulling the plug on Grandma because those exact terms are never used. But, they are there, in effect. So, the opposition is telling the truth about the intent of the bill.

"I never heard Reverend Wright preach a sermon like that. He always preached about Jesus Christ and loving your neighbor."

"I never worked for ACORN, was never their attorney, never trained their crews, and have not been associated with them in any way."

Oh, the list is WAY too long to type out. But, I think you see my point. He’s lied everyday, everyway, since being coronated. He can not be trusted to do the right thing, only the "Wright" thing.

Glenn Flowers
 
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OFFICIAL POLICIES OF HAWAII DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH

To clear up some misunderstandings regarding Hawaii's records of birth I have listed the policies and web sites verifying those policies.
 
A. From Hawaii’s official Department of Health, Vital Records webpage: "Amended certificates of birth may be prepared and filed with the Department of Health, as provided by law, for
1) a person born in Hawaii who already has a birth certificate filed with the Department of Health or
2) a person born in a foreign country" (applies mainly to adopted children).

B. A parent may register an in-state birth in lieu of certification by a hospital of birth under HRS 338-5.

C.
Hawaiian law expressly provides for registration of out-of-state births under HRS 338-17.8. A foreign birth presumably would have been recorded by the American consular of the country of birth, and presumably that would be reflected on the Hawaiian birth certificate.

D.
Hawaiian law, however, expressly acknowledges that its system is subject to error. See, for example, HRS 338-17.

E.
Hawaiian law expressly provides for verification in lieu of certified copy of a birth certificate under HRS 338-14.3.

F.
Even the Hawaii Department of Home Lands does not accept a certified copy of a birth certificate as conclusive evidence for its homestead program. From its web site: "In order to process your application, DHHL utilizes information that is found only on the original Certificate of Live Birth, which is either black or green. This is a more complete record of your birth than the Certification of Live Birth (a computer-generated printout). Submitting the original Certificate of Live Birth will save you time and money since the computer-generated Certification requires additional verification by DHHL."
 
MY FINDINGS AFTER EXTENSIVE SEARCHES AND INQUIRIES
The Certification of Live Birth posted on the internet by Obama's campaign is a valid, official document issued by the state of Hawaii. But, it is NOT an original Certificate of Live Birth of the type issued when a birth occurs in a Hawaiian hospital. The Certification of Live Birth submitted by Obama contains only that information that was provided by Obama's parents when they filled out the application for a COLB. That is why his COLB does not have the doctor's name and address or name of the hospital. It does state that the place of birth was Honolulu but that is what Obama Senior put on the application.
 
Also, the Health Department has NEVER stated that Obama is a natural born citizen, nor have they stated that Obama has a valid Certificate of Live Birth proving his citizenship. What they have stated, and this was misquoted by Obama's campaign and factcheck.org, is that they can verify that they have Obama's original birth certificate (note they do not call it a Certificate of Live Birth) sealed in their vault and that the Certification of Live Birth on Obama's campaign web site is a valid document issued by the state of Hawaii. These statements do not specify the origin of Obama's original sealed birth certificate (their terminology) or that the information on the COLB on the internet is correct, only that they issued it.
 
I do not buy into all the various theories of why Obama may not be a natural born citizen, but I have enthusiastically supported any effort to have Obama's eligibility reliably confirmed . The wide range of proposed scenarios of how Obama lost or never had the status of being a natural born citizen is to be expected when you consider Obama's blatant dishonesty everytime he has been asked to explain the myriad of controversial and suspect situations in his life. Add to that the facts of his early childhood family life and his own accounting of his preference for all things radical and anti-American, and you can understand how the theories have been so numerous and speculative in nature. This is not because those people proposing the theories are wild eyed and irrational conspiracy buffs, but a result of Obama's incessant secrecy and stubborn refusal to acknowledge the legitimate concerns about his eligiblity and intentions and his arrogance and defiance. Obama has spent over $500,000 to keep his original birth certificate secret. Why? That was the original question that has balooned into legal demands and lawsuits because of his insistence on ignoring that question. He could have easily spent $12.00 for a copy of his original birth certificate, and then chewed out those who have doubted him while waving the certificate in their faces in righteous defiance, and put an end to all of this. But that is not what he is doing. He is thumbing his nose at America and American's and the Constitution, and he's loving every minute of it.
 
See how much he hates Christian values and the Bible, and how much he despises religious people in this video. . .
 
 
 
Glenn Flowers
 
 
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NEW SUIT FILED AGAINST OBAMA LOOKS PROMISING

A lawsuit seeking an emergency injunction that would prevent Obama from becoming president until he can prove he is eligible, was filed December 3, 2008, in the Supreme Court of California.
 
It appears to comply with the requirements for standing that were used to dismiss other suits. And it asserts a more valid argument for Obama's ineligibility for being president because it cites information that Obama and his campaign have admitted is true. Can't get much better than Obama confessing.
 
The complete, original filing (a PDF document) can be downloaded by right clicking the link and selecting "SAVE FILE AS"
 
OR
 
Just click the link to open the file for reading.
 
 
 
 
I have verified the authenticity of the file and its status as filed and recorded.
 
This looks like it is the case the SCOTUS will not be able to ignore OR dismiss for lack of standing.
 
Glenn Flowers
 
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OBAMA: DEPENDABLE AND DEDICATED

PREFACE
This post, as with any proper essay, states its primary assertion upfront, normally within the first paragraph. The following paragraph or two then serve to flesh out or expand upon those primary statements, and the balance of the work is the proof evidence that supports the theme and convinces the reader to believe you.
My primary assertion is contained in the title. The opening paragraphs below are meant to convince you that I am convinced of the validity of my claims. Any conservative reader will, however, before finished reading those opening sentences, begin to doubt my core values as a conservative. I, therefore, beg patience and will hint at the possibility that, even though I am perfect in the title, you may have been baited by that title into reading this post, which is, afterall, the sole purpose of a title.
 

DEDICATION
 
Obama is, first of all, dedicated to his pursuit of his goals. He will go to any lengths to insure the highest and most enduring level of success. He has a tenacity envied by pit bulls (no lipstick), makes no apologies, negotiates no compromises, and suffers no incapacities from minor setbacks. He is a consistant achiever and has become comfortably familiar with accolades and praise being his reward for a devotion to principal.

DEPENDABILITY

Obama learned early in his life that dedication is dependant on and, in fact, semi-synonomous with the idea of dependability. If dedication is total and sincere, dependability will become a self imposed, defining character trait. Devotion and dedication demand a dependable approach. That is not to say the approach is set in stone or written in law, but it does define a policy of, once defined, being effectively predictable of future decisions and procedures. Dedication is the result of setting a goal that is inspired and chosen due to an inherent desire and self confident attitude. Dependability is a tactic chosen due to dedication to the goal and the realization that any sacrifice is worth the result.

We conservatives will do ourselves a big service to believe my claims regarding Obama’s character. To do so enables a truer, more easily accepted knowledge of everything we know and will ever learn about him. In fact, this insight into his motivational resources enables his critics with an almost supernatural ability to predict, with near perfection, his future choices and decisions, and his public speaking topics.

You might say, "Glenn, you still sound like an Obama convert". And I would say that I would choose first to die. You might be confused because we have all come to know Obama as a talented liar, a consistant policy jumper, and being undeserving, if not incapable, of being credited with traits of dependability or dedication, these usually being thought of as signs of an ethical and selfless character.

But, consider the possibility that his goals and motivations to those ends are not what he professes. Let’s assume, for the purpose of this essay, that his goal is not the office of president, but rather the attainment of worldwide authority and power, if not supreme emperor of the universe (not at all silly when you consider his ego). The motivations for that goal self evident. When we rethink our vision of Obama in that vein, we are able to perceive the dedication he has to that goal. And if we are able to convince ourselves that he is dedicated to an unspoken agenda of influnce on a global scale via a socialist system, we can then have faith and be confident in his dependability to act in the ways that have been successful and to persist in his methods and practices.

Obama has, from the beginning of his career in politics, adopted a very well defined, deeply engrained system and set of rules that he has dutifully studied and faithfully set to memory to the point of becoming second nature. He has chosen the radical road to socialism as created and taught by Saul Alinsky, the father of community organization as a profession. He has followed, with a religious devotion, the insistance by Alinsky that success is no less than the power over all who will believe your lies, and that that power is the only worthwhile pursuit for the elitist who believes himself to be a messiah.

Obama is dedicated and dependable, and now that we know that, he is also more vulnerable. Let’s decide to exploit, in every possible way, that chink in his majesty’s armor. After all, we are conservatives and are, therefore, always right. Well, almost always.

Glenn Flowers

 

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ACTIONS SPEAK LOUDEST

On their face Obama's words and actions don't seem to jive.
 
Obama claims to be a US citizen by birth.
  • No valid birth certificate has been provided by Obama.
  • Obama traveled abroad at age twenty with an Indonesian passport which requires Indonesian citizenship. Dual citizenship is not legal in the US.
  • A federal law suit citing over 20 allegations is pending seeking his disqualification from becoming president.

 

Obama claims he is a Christian and has never been a Muslim.

  • In Audacity of Hope Obama states that he doesn’t really hold any profound religious belief but that he joined the church for street creds.
  • Obama’s environment from birth to his move to Hawaii at age ten WAS Muslim. His instruction, family life, allegiance, and pride was in and of being Muslim. He once stated that the Islamic evening call to prayer was the most beautiful sound he’s ever heard and if necessary he would side with the Muslims.
  • Obama has never been baptized as a Christian. To do so would brand him as an apostate in the world of Islam.
  • Obama does not believe in the Christian doctrine of Jesus as the only means for salvation, as taught in the Bible. He has professed the belief that there are many avenues for achieving spiritual atonement. Even his church of two decades does not teach biblical Christanity.

 

Obama claims to love America and to be proud of being an American

  • Obama has studied and believes in the teachings and beliefs of F. M. Davis, Karl Marx, Saul Alinsky, Bill Ayres, Jeremiah Wright, Louis Farakhan, and Vladimir Lenin.
  • Obama refuses to pay tribute to the American flag or the National Anthem. He calls a flag lapel pin "that pin".
  • Obama’s typical public address is a few minutes of thanks and greetings followed by a laundry list of what is wrong with America, how it treats its people badly, and how he, alone, can bring about the change needed and establish economic justice for all. This is classic Alinkyism "rubbing raw their feeling of dissent".
  • Obama has toured the world apologizing for the evil America has wrought on the world and promising to make America a global citizen. More Alinskyisms.
  • Obama has changed his politics as needed to maintain his poll ratings. This is in strict adherence to the Alinsky tactic of obtaining power in any way possible, regardless of the means. The end justifies whatever is necessary because without power you can do nothing to bring about socialism, Alinsky’s ultimate goal.
  • His own campaign boldly states that de-regulation of industry and a capitalistic market are failed, antiquated policies. Obama believes that major, sweeping reform of American society, including the elimination of the middle class through redistribution of wealth (economic justice) is what America needs, and that is the change he believes in and is working for.

To understand who and what Obama is and what his vision for America entails one need only list his known associates, his self proclaimed influences, his reversals of policies during the campaign, his public anti-American behavior, his wife’s public statements and her reversals of demeanor, his use of euphamisms straight from Alinsky’s writings, and his promises made and then broken to not run for president and be the best senator he can for Illinois.

Barack Obama is a dangerous, anti-American socialist who means to dismantle American society as we know it and reform it into a Marxist dictatorship. He will do anything, say anything, and change colors like a chameleon to get the power necessary to do so. To him, the end justifies the means. If you add all this up, Obama’s words and actions become logical and revealing. He wants to bring America down. That is the change we should ALL believe he believes in.

I, as a veteran of the US Armed Forces, swore an oath to defend the Constitution against all enemies foreign and domestic. All Americans should fear the America Obama would implement. A vote for Obama is a vote against America. DON’T LET THIS HAPPEN!
 
Glenn Flowers
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OBAMA SLAPPED DOWN AND LEFT NAKED !!

From the time Rudy began until the last word from the future VP, a thorough and accurate deconstruction of Obama and all he stands for was expertly presented to the people of America. Of course, for a true, experienced executive the task was a simple one. Two such executives did their jobs well and removed all the confusion and doubt as to what Obama's true goals are, and how he is not only unqualified for an executive position, but how his vision of America is not healthy for America or Americans.
 
Obama and his rhetoric were exposed as phony, deceptive claims of a utopian America that would spell disaster and tyranny if believed. Americans were, finally, told the simple truth about hope and change undefined. And it left Obama looking and sounding like a five year old performing in the kindergarden Christmas play.
 
What a difference real ability and experience can make when being conned by a tinhorn wannabe.
 
Glenn Flowers
 
 
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OBAMA IS BEING MISUNDERSTOOD BY THE RIGHT

I have heard it from the left and the right, from his followers and his detractors, about his possible 2008 victory and in reference to his possible defeat. The claim made in each case goes something like this, "Obama is a talented and eloquent young man who has inspired a great many Americans to believe in him. He will, at some time, be able to do great things for America."
 
While I agree that Obama is talented and certainly knows how to deliver his message, I am firmly and factually convinced that he will not only never do, nor desire to do great things for America, but if given the chance, will, instead, knowingly and eagerly reform the government of America from a constitutional democratic republic ruled by law, into a socialist, fascist oligarchy ruled by the teachings of Karl Marx, Vladimir Lennon, and Saul Alinsky.
 
In Obama's speeches he frequently employs euphemisms taken directly from Saul Alinsky's Rules for Radicals, a handbook for "the have nots to learn how to take power from the haves" as the manual defines itself. These watered down catch phrases of socialistic activists are benign sounding to the unknowing but frighteningly definitive to those who have come to an overall awareness of who Obama is and what he has chosen as his life's goal. After reading both of Obama's books, adding up all I have learned through his own actions in his campaign, considering the dominant character traits of the vast majority of his associates of choice and circumstance, his self proclaimed "mentors" and inspirational relationships, his wife's open disdain for the white race and this nation, and, most convincing, Barack repetitive use of Alinsky's practices and teachings has convinced me that he means to destroy America as we know it.
 
Saul Alinsky, the father of community organizing, had a significant impact on Obama, specifically in Obama's credo of change. Change, in Alinsky's view, comes about by invoking radical socialism and redistribution of wealth. Instead of admitting his ultimate goals though, Obama has, again, learned from Alinsky how to tone it down and avoid being explicit. Phrases such as "economic justice", "oppression of the ownership class", and "agents of social change" are just politely deceptive replacements for Marxist socialistic principals of "from each according to his ability to each according to his need", state control and ownership of all commerce and industry, and a grass roots movement duped into voting into office those "have nots" determined to steal everything from the "haves", respectively. The appeal of universal health care for every citizen is a seemingly innocent lure most people can come to support as a good thing, but it is inherently and most certainly a large step onto a socialstic slippery slope that Obama intends for us all to fall for. His continued reference to our global citizenship and responsibilities, our failure as a nation to be all that we have the opportunity to be, our inability to go it alone in the world of nations, our guilt of excessive consumption, and our need to open our wealth to the needy of the world are all sure and recognizable elements of proof that Obama believes in a global socialist government.
 
Obama, in the true and faithful adherence to lessons learned in his community organizing work, places his success in the belief that the end result is all that is important, and any means, including lying, stealing, fraud, and character assasination, is a fair game and are to be used in any manner practicable. When organizing neighborhoods he learned, from Alinsky, to listen to the complaints and hopes of the people, not with any intention of working to alleviate their suffering or gain any success for them, but to know what could be used to stir the pain of their suffering and mobilize the disadvantaged into a political voting block that would place him in the seat of power. Obama believes the assertion that they, the leftist organizers, are the elite and the leftist social values they pursue justifies the use of tactics whose very nature is a blatant lie. After all, no one would be willing to help him gain the power he seeks if they knew it demanded their own destruction as free, self determinate Americans. So, "by any means necessary" became the underlying, predominant platform for Barack Obama's rise to fame and ultimate power.
 
No, Obama will never do a great amount of good for America. If given even the most narrow of opportunity he will reek irreperable harm to America's people, her promise of freedom for all, and her standing as the greatest nation on Earth. And he will do it with the enthusiasm and zeal of a school boy seeking to gain the favor of that special lass whose attention and affection pervade his very existance.
 
Obama is extremely dangerous and should not be allowed to gain the power of the presidency for any amount of time whatsoever. His defeat and relegation to political obscurity should be the ultimate priority of every America loving voter in every election Obama chooses to run in. It is the very survival of America that is in peril. Do not underestimate the motives of this evil socialist pig. To do so will insure the end of what the forefathers started 232 years ago, and our enslavement to Obama and all his friends waiting under the proverbial bus.
 
With all sincerity and love for America,
Glenn Flowers
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GIVE THAT WOMAN A SCREEN TEST ! !

Tonight at the Democratic National Convention, Michelle "my belle" Obama proved to the world she is capable and, actually, very talented at reading script and doing so with such convincing effect. A convincing and talented performer at least and a potential Oscar nominee, if not an outright winner.

In all reality, is there anyone who believes that she was sincere in all of what she said? Oh, she was sincere about her children and husband. But it was three fourths of the way into her speech before she finally mentioned America. She said she loved America, but lost no time making it clear that America was not living up to its potential, and that Barack was determined to change America and make it what it should be. If it is, as she claims to believe, the greatest nation on Earth, and offers, as she has said, the greatest opportunities for achieveing your dreams, why oh why does she believe that it is in such dire need for change? She feels that America needs to be what it has never succeeded in being. Never has America been what it could have been? America has never lived up to its promise? Is there anyone who believes America is as big a failure as Michelle does?

There is no guessing needed, no doubt about how the Obamas believe America should be changed. Universal healthcare whether you want it or not, equal prosperity for all whether they earn it or not, freedom from want and need, and a world class education for all. Is there anyone who believes those benefits are the responsibility of the government or the taxpayers?

Increasing the capital gains tax, not for revenue, but for fairness. Increasing taxation of the evil, rich capitalists who oppress the working class and cheat them out of a fair wage to line their own pockets. Is there anyone who does not know who signs their paycheck?

Obama considered it a lack of experience, a sign of not being fit to be president when McCain said he had no plan for solving the current mortgage scandal. Barack laughed and thought it a severe gaffe on McCain’s part. Is there anyone who feels McCain, or any president, should plan on fixing the mortgage fiasco?

The view of America is exactly opposite when seen from Obama’s view as it is when seen through the simplicity and perfection of the Constitution and the eyes of We, the People, the majority of Americans. Is there anyone who believes we need to change America into what Obama wants?

I thought not.

Glenn Flowers

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